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Parallelism between the books

The Best WizardThe Best Wizard Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭
edited May 2011 in General
Can you mention some of them? It will be funny find a lot of them now that the saga has ended.
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  • The Best WizardThe Best Wizard Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭
    2-6

    In the second book, Snape finds Harry and Ron who arrive late at school. In the sixth book Harry arrives late at school and has to go at the castle with him.
  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    1-7
    *Griphook, Grindelwald, Gringotts, Snitch, Ollivander
    2-6
    *Mysterious book, horcruxes, young Tom Riddle
    3-5
    *Sirius, Lupin, Buckbeak, Azkaban escapees

    Poor Goblet of Fire is left in the dark!

    Anyways, 5-7: Ministry of Magic/Umbridge.

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  • The Best WizardThe Best Wizard Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭
    4-7

    Harry and Ron argument ;-)
  • brian6brian6 Posts: 1,410 ✭✭✭
    edited May 2011
    4-7
    We see Krum and Fleur. Plus Harry and Ron have a fight. Also, in GoF LV rises and in DH he dies. MoM scenes, too.
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  • The Best WizardThe Best Wizard Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭
    1-4-7

    Harry victorious at the end. A clue about how the saga will end.
  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    4-7
    Priori Incantatem.
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  • Pensieve SeekerPensieve Seeker Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭✭
    Book 1- Ron sees his heart's deepest desire in the Mirror of Erised on Christmas night.
    Book 7- Ron sees his deepest fears in the locket horcrux on Christmas night.

    (I forgot who stated this, but I do remember reading it somewhere.)
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  • decarusdecarus Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭
    I think there are real connections between 1 and 7. Such as Harry learns the first part of what happened the night his parents died in SS and then learns the full story in DH. Hagrid carrying Harry in both. Harry on Sirius' motorbike first coming to the Durlsey's and then leaving them. Gringotts and Griphook. Then there is the first showdown between Voldemort and Harry and then the last.

    I think that there is similar connections across in all of them. Like in 2 and 6 which are the second and the second to last. We first learn part of Voldemort's past in CoS and then learn more of his history in HBP. Harry defeats the first horcrux in CoS and then Dumbledore destorys the second in HBP and they learn what they are. Then in 3 and 5, Harry learns about Sirius and thinks he is trying to kill him and finds his godfather and then in 5 they become close and Harry ends up losing Sirius.

    It is like the story that began in each parallel book begins and ends with those books. The story that began in 3 ends in 5, the story that began in 2 ends in 6, and the story that began in 1 ends in 7.
  • decarusdecarus Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭
    Harry gets the first deathly hallow in SS and then gets the other two in DH.
  • decarusdecarus Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭
    The snitch from SS comes back again into the story in DH.
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,700 mod
    There are many and i cant think of any how sad
  • decarusdecarus Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭
    Harry gets Hedwig in SS and then she dies in DH.
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,700 mod
    Siriuss bike
  • Festax0333Festax0333 Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2
    and
    7
    Chamber of Secrets is used to destroy a horcrux
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  • dobby_freak19dobby_freak19 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭✭
    1-7
    Hagrid´s motorbike :P just a random one
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  • TheDoctorTheDoctor Posts: 3,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
    3 and 5: Lupin encourages more hands-on methods and is the best DADA teacher, while Umbridge doesn't let them do magic at all and is generally considered the worst one.
  • Pensieve SeekerPensieve Seeker Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭✭
    Book 3- Harry first becomes infatuated with Cho.
    Book 5- Harry becomes disinfatuated with Cho.

    Books 2 and 6- the silver and opal necklace
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  • decarusdecarus Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭
    edited May 2011
    2 and 6. In 2. Harry goes to Borgin and Burkes for the first time. Draco first looks at the hand of glory and learns that it can be used to see in the dark. Harry hides in the vanishing cabinet.

    Then in 6. Draco uses the same vanishing cabinet to get into Hogwarts and the hand of glory to help the death eaters run through the darkness powder. And we learn more about Borgin and Burkes and how Voldemort work there for a time.
  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    Yeah, Knockturn Alley appears in both 2 and 6, as well as the Burrow.
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  • decarusdecarus Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭
    I also think there are connections between 1, 4, and 7. Like Harry first learns about the blood connection in 1 and then in 4 Voldemort uses Harry's blood and doubles their connection and then in 7 that doubled connection keeps Harry alive when Voldemort tries to kill him in the forest.

    Also in 1 Harry first sees his parents in the mirror and then in 4 he is able to see them briefly and speak to them during the priori incantatem and then in 7 he speaks to them as they walk together in the forest again.
  • decarusdecarus Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭
    Also in 3 Hermione uses the time turner for the first time and in 5 the entire stock of time turners are destroyed when the kids go to the ministry.
  • TheDoctorTheDoctor Posts: 3,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah someone should ask JKR if the whole paralell book thing was intentional on her part because it is great.

    Ollivander appears in 1, 4, and 7.
  • Pensieve SeekerPensieve Seeker Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭✭
    Yeah someone should ask JKR if the whole paralell book thing was intentional on her part because it is great.
    It would have to be, imo.

    Moaning Myrtle appears in the even books 2, 4, and 6.

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  • decarusdecarus Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭
    If it was not intentional it is some crazy coincidences. I think it had to be purposeful which is really impressive.

    2 and 6. The diary is introduced and destroyed in 2 and then we learn that it was a horcrux in 6.

    Arogag the spider is shown being brought into the castle by Hagrid by the diary and then in 6 the spider dies and they show his burial.

    Ginny is introduced in 2 and we find out she likes Harry and then in 6 Harry finally realizes he likes her and they get together.
  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    edited May 2011
    Aragog makes an appearance in books 2 and 6. In Book 2 he is introduced, in Book 6 he is buried.

    EDIT: Decarus beat me to it.
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  • decarusdecarus Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭
    By seconds it seems.

    The deluminator. Dumbledore uses it in 1 and then passes it on to Ron who uses it in 7.
  • dobby_freak19dobby_freak19 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭✭
    By seconds it seems.

    The deluminator. Dumbledore uses it in 1 and then passes it on to Ron who uses it in 7.
    good one!
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  • decarusdecarus Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭
    There is a boggart in 3 and 5.
  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    There are also a few connections between 5 and 7:

    -Ministry of Magic
    -Umbridge
    -Kreacher
    -Grimmauld Place
    -Room of Requirement (also appears in 6, I guess)
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  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    There is a boggart in 3 and 5.
    Not to mention dementors!

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  • decarusdecarus Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭
    Maybe Trelawney's prophecies. She first gives a prophecy to Harry in 3 and then we learn her part in the prophecies surrounding Harry's parent's deaths in 5.

    I need to do a reread. It has been awhile.
  • decarusdecarus Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭
    Dragons in 1, 4, and 7.
  • The Best WizardThe Best Wizard Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭
    Dragons in 1, 4, and 7.
    Great. We should make a list. Another one:

    1-Dumbledore lies Harry about what he sees at the mirror of Erised.
    7- Harry discovers what he would see at the mirror of Erised (all his family united)

  • decarusdecarus Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭
    That was a good one Best Wizard.
  • The Best WizardThe Best Wizard Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭
    edited June 2011
    This are the form of the paralelism:

    1-7
    2-6
    3-5
    1-4-7

    1 Harry thinks that Snape is the real enemy and at the final chapter discovers that Snape was trying to protect him.

    7 Harry hates Snape and wants to confront him. After he sees his memories, he discovers that Snape was trying to help him.
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  • Pensieve SeekerPensieve Seeker Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭✭
    Book 1- Voldemort wants to use a stone to bring him to life to bring his evil back into the world.
    Book 7- Harry uses a stone to help him to his death to take evil out of the world.

    Book 2- The DADA teacher is Lockhart who is physically attractive, yet incompetent.
    Book 6- The DADA teacher is Snape who is not good-looking, but very competent in the subject.

    Book 2- Ron and Harry use Polyjuice Potion to turn into Crabbe and Goyle.
    Book 6- Crabbe and Goyle use Polyjuice Potion to turn into two girls.
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  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    There are also connections between 5 and 7.
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  • The Best WizardThe Best Wizard Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭
    I think that the only books which could have a triple connection (that book and others two) are the first, the fourth and the seventh books. At the same time, you can discover connection between one of them and another book of the saga.
  • There are a BUUUUNCH of connections, from 1 - 7... I can remember that in SS, Hagrid mentions briefly that a young man named Sirius Black lend him his motorcycle..
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  • TheDoctorTheDoctor Posts: 3,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I noticed something else today. So there are 7 major set pieces in book 7:

    1. Seven Potters.
    2. Ministry Infiltraion
    3. Godrics Hollow
    4. Xenophilius Lovegood
    5. Malfoy Manor
    6. Gringotts
    7. Battle of Hogwarts

    1 and 7 feature more Order members and Death Eaters. They are both the biggest battles in the book. Harry and Voldemort face off in both of them.

    2 and 6 both feature disguises and the trio trying to sneak in somewhere to steal a horcrux.

    3 and 5 are the "close calls" where Voldemort almost gets there and gets them.
  • Pensieve SeekerPensieve Seeker Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭✭
    I noticed something else today. So there are 7 major set pieces in book 7:

    1. Seven Potters.
    2. Ministry Infiltraion
    3. Godrics Hollow
    4. Xenophilius Lovegood
    5. Malfoy Manor
    6. Gringotts
    7. Battle of Hogwarts

    1 and 7 feature more Order members and Death Eaters. They are both the biggest battles in the book. Harry and Voldemort face off in both of them.

    2 and 6 both feature disguises and the trio trying to sneak in somewhere to steal a horcrux.

    3 and 5 are the "close calls" where Voldemort almost gets there and gets them.
    Wow! Excellent observation! :)

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  • UniversHarryPotter.cUniversHarryPotter.c Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭✭
    1-5
    Until 5 Harry is always thinking that is like Snape could read in their heads ! In fact in the 5 we learnt that this is the case .
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  • The Best WizardThe Best Wizard Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭
    edited May 2011
    2- Harry discovers that he speaks parseltongue

    6- Harry understands the conversation between Morphin, Marvolo and one of the Ministry´s employees because he knows that language.
  • bereskibereski Posts: 354
    edited May 2011
    1-7 Harry Potter appear
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,700 mod
    1-7 Harry Potter appear
    lol!
  • Accio_LogAccio_Log Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭
    1-7 Harry Potter appear
    lol!
    Nice!!

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  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,700 mod
    1-7 hermione and ron appear.... hogwarts appear....hagrid and dumbledore. SNAPE.
  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    2 & 6 - Voldemort does not appeal in a whole form, but rather in the past, preserved by memory.
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  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,700 mod
    So im not smart? *sad face* :(
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,700 mod
    you doubt me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    haha
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